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November 26

Help

I am a Chinese Wikipedia user .I am writing ａ page on Chinese Wikipdia ,I need this image(File:Apollo 11 five ounce obverse.jpeg) , but it is only on the English Wikipedia , so are there some people help me to move this image to wikimedia so that I can use it on Chinese Wikipedia? Hong Kaile (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: It's fair use (which is copyright exception legal thing), so you'll need to make sure it falls under Chinese Wikipedia's non-free image use guidelines. From the technical standpoint, you should be able to just download the image then re-upload it at zh.wiki, unless there's a better way. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: There's no need for you to download the image from Wikipedia, as the original is still located at the US Mint. GoingBatty (talk) 00:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks！ Hong Kaile (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Citing museum labels/wall text

Wondering whether or not museum labels and wall text are useable as citations per Wikipedia guidelines - if so, what is the proper citation template to use? I've searched for discussions about this/examples of proper citations, but I can't find much in the way of explanation. I'm assuming the proper template would be either cite sign, cite document, or cite object, but I'm not sure. Specifically thinking about using a wall label from the National Gallery of Art in DC that contains historical information about an artist's career. There were no citations on the label, but I have the entire text if it's needed for proper citation. Thanks! 19h00s (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

19h00s Yes these are appropriate sources. I would treat it like an article on the museum's website. Template:Cite sign should work. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The one occasion that I've needed to quote something like that I simply used <ref>Tourist interpretation panel adjacent to the doorway</ref>. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

AfD not listed in the 2023 November 17 log.

On 17 Nov I nominated an article for AfD. The discussion was relisted but I can't find it in the November 17 log. Is this OK? Gitz (talk) (contribs) 02:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it's now in the November 24 log. Relisted discussions get removed from the old log. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Good, thanks! Gitz (talk) (contribs) 03:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

android app

how do I set preferences and access my user page from android app ? 3MRB1 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I signed the question in android app..---... 3MRB1 (talk) 04:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC) (4 tildes)

@3MRB1: Hi there! If the answer isn't in mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ, you can ask at mw:Talk:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Busted common.js

I saw the humorous article WP:HTVC and I tried out the vandalism script (just to see if the Wikipedians who made it were JOKING), by way of putting it into my common.js file. But then I couldn't delete the script and save it! The "edit" button became a "vandalize" button, and there was no way to save my changes on the common.js file after. Can one of you admins please delete my common.js file so I can edit again? Ameerthewolf ^{(talk to me} 06:22, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ameerthewolf  Done, for future reference WP:SAFEMODE is helpful in these cases since it allows disabling the your custom javascript. Galobtter (talk) 06:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

News feed

2405:3800:868:E675:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:ITN. Folly Mox (talk) 09:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I persuade someone remove the redirect Natrium and make a hidden redirect page to the chemical element Sodium.

Could you make the name Natrium not shown in the summary field in the heading, but sufficient for everyone to type Natrium and get the result: Sodium. Would be a lovely kindness of you to help me. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I am not entirely sure what you mean – the page Natrium (redirection disabled for that link) is already a redirect page. If you navigate to Natrium (that link is normal behaviour), you will be immediately redirected to Sodium. Tollens (talk) 11:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tollens, no, I mean to hide the box 'Natrium redirects here'. And in meantime, create a page with the redirect to keep the article polish and consistent. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Let's spot the difference when you read the heading box of the article Potassium even you entered Kalium. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The difference is that Kalium has no other meaning, whereas Natrium (disambiguation) is needed as there are other possible uses for the term "Natrium". Hence the hatnote on Sodium. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Wait. I saw an effective way, you can make the heading box sound like In the Latin name, see Natrium (disambiguation) or something similar to that. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 12:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Users may enter "Natrium" in the search box and be taken directly to Sodium without cliking anything when they wanted something else like Natrium, West Virginia. That's why the top of Sodium has a socalled hatnote:

"Natrium" redirects here. For other uses, see Natrium (disambiguation).

It's working as intended and we don't want to change it. It's not technically possible for our software to only display the hatnote if a user arrived at Sodium via the redirect Natrium. The redirect is created with code in the page Natrium. The hatnote does not create the redirect but merely informs the reader that there is a redirect. If there is no other plausible article they could have been looking for then we don't make a hatnote on the target page for redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Can I use miscellaneous reference desk for help on origin of unknown stuff (such as a movie clip, but I don’t know where it is from & when was it made)

Is it allowed or not allowed? Should I use the miscellaneous reference desk for help on unknown stuff (such as a clip from a movie, music video or TV show, but I don’t know where it was made, what language is it & when was it released)? —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The Industrial Me 1563 I would ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. TSventon (talk) 14:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for your help! —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi

I recently got the permission for reviewing drafts and was wondering how could I notify a user for moving his page from namespace to draftspace? zoglophie^•talk• 14:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:DRAFTIFY recommends using {{uw-articletodraft}}. Folly Mox (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Sharia

Should the term "sharia" be written in upper or lowercase? JackkBrown (talk) 14:48, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, I don't have an answer to that question, but since I know you value precision, the two English terms you'll want to be differentiating between are Title Case and sentence case. Or maybe I'm wrong, but those are terms we use around here a lot. Folly Mox (talk) 15:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

In what version of English? [1] Bazza (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, I suggest that you ask at Talk:Sharia. Search for "capitalization" in the talk page archive as the question has been raised before. TSventon (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

"connecting" two articles about the same topic, but in different languages

There are 2 "foreign" language articles that cover the same topic as an English article that I recently created:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

The German and Cebuano articles link to each other in their sidebars, but my English article doesn't link to them. Is there a proper way of fixing this?

Thank you.

Pdanese (talk) 15:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Pdanese, articles on the same subject in different languages are linked through Wikidata. The de and ceb articles were linked to d:Q17490645 in Wikidata so I added the en article as well. TSventon (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Pdanese (talk) 15:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Pdanese: One way to do this is via the "edit links" button below the "languages" section; this button leads to WikiData and you can then edit content in the "Wikipedia" box on the page that comes up. (edit conflict)

User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Pdanese, for older articles the articles may be linked to different Wikidata items. In that case the items can be merged, see the Wikidata help page: d:Help:Merge. It is important to check that all linked articles are on the same subject before merging the items. TSventon (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Request rollback (my edits)

Here: Maslaha. JackkBrown (talk) 15:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown using Twinkle or a manual revert you can restore an old version. It is not necessary to ask for a rollback. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 15:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sungodtemple: I can't, because the versions overlapped. I would like to be sure that I have not made any mistakes, I don't trust manual revert very much. JackkBrown (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown I have restored the version before your edits by clicking on the version before your edits, clicking edit wikitext and then publish changes. TSventon (talk) 16:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Write article about a person who has directed short movies and is a filmmaker and journalist?

Can I write an article about a person who has directed almost 3 short movies and is a journalist and moviemaker? Please help find the answer Zahirdaud24 (talk) 18:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

So...2 short movies? Do they meet WP:FILMMAKER. Do multiple reliable sources discuss them in depth? --Onorem (talk) 18:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The benchmark is significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Creating articles without fulfilling this requirement usually leads to the article being deleted very quickly. It's also important to to see the conflict of interest guidelines.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Zahirdaud24, per WP:N, what are the 3-5 best sources you can think of that are at the same time reliably published (WP:RS), independent of the person and about the person in some detail? This excludes blogs, wikis, the person's websites, online bookstores etc etc etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

There are 3 to 4 times mention of him on dawn news paper website which is based in Pakistan. Zahirdaud24 (talk) 17:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

What on earth is a printworthy redirect?

I've seen this before and I fail to understand it. All discussions about it link to this essay, which is nigh-incomprehensible. I've read it several times and I still don't get what exactly is and isn't printworthy. I know what "with possibilities" means, and I get what WP 1.0 is and the idea of that project so I don't need that explained to me, but what are the identifying factors that make a redirect classifiable as printworthy? PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: It's about whether it would be worth including in a huge alphabetically organized printed version of the encyclopedia where the equivalent of a redirect from X to Y would be a printed line like "X: See Y". My rough take is that if such a line would be unhelpful (for example because X and Y would be adjacent) or give a wrong impression that "X" is somehow valid then it's unprintworthy. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I get that in theory, but are there guidelines on what should and shouldn't be in a print encyclopedia? I'm surprised redirects would be included at all. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: I think it's for an imaginary scenario where there is no cost to extra printing and readers shouldn't have to guess which title is used for an article they look for in an encyclopedia with many volumes. I have tried that. It's annoying. The English Wikipedia is far too large to print in any case, and I think offline digital versions are almost dead but I haven't followed the work. I suggest you ignore the whole issue. That's what I have always done when creating and tagging redirects, and I guess nearly everybody does. The printworthy/unprintworthy designation is very rarely chosen directly by an editor but by whether the redirect is tagged with something in Category:Templates for printworthy redirects or Category:Templates for unprintworthy redirects. I leave it for others to decide which redirect tags do what. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA Maybe some examples would be helpful. Wikipedia article names for medicines are almost always the International nonproprietary name, whereas many readers will look up brand names. Hence the latter will be printworthy and that's how Paxlovid is marked (in a hidden category, in that case): it redirects to nirmatrelvir/ritonavir. Similarly, Inderal to propranolol etc. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:50, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull Quite helpful. This helped me understand it more. Thank you very much. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect literal meaning (maybe)

On this page, the meaning of the term "maṣlaḥa" is "public interest", but, according to this, "is frequently rendered as "public interest", although it is much closer in meaning to well-being, welfare, and social weal.": https://www.jstor.org/stable/3399225. Another question: in English it's spelled "wine-pourer" or "wine pourer"? I cannot find anything on Google. JackkBrown (talk) 23:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: As I've mentioned before, the best place to discuss maslaha is the article's talk page, Talk:Maslaha. Also, "wine pourer" would not be hyphenated - try Googling "wine pourer". GoingBatty (talk) 01:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

or see ngrams. Maproom (talk) 11:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

November 27

Dear wikipedia Team Please Unblock My Website

Dear wikipedia Team Please Unblock My Website (https://hindi whiz.com/) 2409:40E3:67:AE9A:D439:BE13:403B:7BC1 (talk) 04:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

The website was recently added to the global blacklist. To request removal, see meta:Talk:Spam blacklist. GoingBatty (talk) 05:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty Note that MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed_removals says that Requests from site owners or anyone with a conflict of interest will be declined, so the IP is unlikely to succeed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

STD vs STI?

A somewhat problematic editor whom I will not mention by name has gone on a spree of changing mentions of STDs to STIs. Is there actually any preference between one term or the other? Anonymous 04:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I recommend bringing this up at Talk:Sexually transmitted infection. There appears to be at least one thread there regarding whether STI or STD should have priority for naming purposes, though the name of the article may itself be an indicator. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 05:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @An anonymous username, not my real name: Hi there! The Wikipedia article on the subject is called "Sexually transmitted infection", and starts with "A sexually transmitted infection (STI), also referred to as a sexually transmitted disease (STD)...", which leads me to believe either one would correct. The most important thing is that the usage in an article is clear. STD is a redirect to Sexually transmitted infection, while STI is a disambiguation page with several other meanings. The next most important thing would be consistency within a given article (but not necessarily across ALL articles). Lastly, I would recommend using whatever the sources say. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Name of the 1775-1783 war

Please guide me in referring to “the military event which resulted in the formation of the United States”. I presume this question has come up many times. However, I can’t find an answer in MOS or MILMOS. I have read: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (events) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Military history#Wars

The question is especially relevant for British units and British soldiers. In those cases, service in America is only part of the story.

I have already run into the complexities such as the Seven Years’ War and the “sub-war” French and Indian War. Both names are used and the other normally mentioned as an alternative. The same situation seems to exist with the 1775-1783 war: a global war with a purely north american component. - I have also found: “The American Revolutionary War (April 19, 1775 – September 3, 1783), also known as the Revolutionary War or American War of Independence…”Does that mean all three of these names are allowed in articles, but no other? - If the name refers only to north america, what is the name of the global conflict? - A standard for such wars seems to be “<country> War of Independence”; hence, we have the American War of Independence. Britons of that time seem to have referred to it as “the American War”. Modern Americans usually call it the American Revolutionary War. - names change. I have come across articles referring to The Great War, meaning 1914-1919. But the Republic/Napoleonic war of 1789-1815 was also called The Great War for years afterward.

If it isn’t documented, I’d like to hear from experienced neutral editors. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 08:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Humphrey Tribble your main question is a bit specific for a general helpdesk, but it is always relevant to check what reliable sources call a subject. The names in the first sentence of an article are not necessarily a complete list and may change as the article is edited. Places you could ask for more specialist advice include

• Talk:American Revolutionary War, where there are discussions of the name in the talk page archive
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history
• Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities

Try one at a time to avoid splitting the discussion. TSventon (talk) 14:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Humphrey Tribble: Or try having the discussion in one of the places suggested by TSventon, and then post invitations in the other locations providing a link to where the conversation is being held. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Help tagging a user page for CSD U2

I tried to request this page for speedy deletion but it was blocked by the abuse filter. The username did not being used and it is not a format of IP username. Please help me tagging {{db-u2}} to this page. Thank you. 132.234.229.149 (talk) 08:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The username was previously used per here. 49.197.224.97 (talk) 08:45, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

move page

How a page can get moved. On this page the given name was wrong. The only thing to do now is to move the page itself:

Louis Deloy Nobswolf (talk) 10:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

JNobswolf We don't need the whole url when linking to another Wikipedia article or page. You may request a move at Requested Moves. 331dot (talk) 10:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Collapseable option of Template:Argo Navis

Could any turn the current Template:Argo Navis to {{Argo Navis|state=collapsed}} ? I plan to make {{Argo Navis|state=expanded}} to something else. 117daveawesome (talk) 07:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@117daveawesome: I'm not sure what you want but {{Argo Navis|state=collapsed}} and {{Argo Navis|state=expanded}} call the same template {{Argo Navis}} with a different value of the state parameter. The only difference is whether the template is initially collapsed with a "show" link" or expanded with a "hide" link when the page loads. The content is identical and should remain identical. If you want a template with different content on some pages while keeping the old template available then you can make a new template with another name. It's also possible but more complicated to add a new parameter like |short=yes to the existing template like {{COVID-19 pandemic}}. Such an option should just be for omitting some content, not for the large current differences between {{Argo Navis}} and {{User:117daveawesome/testing}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Changing a Photograph in an article

The photo in the article on me was taken by my husband at our wedding and is inappropriate for a professional woman's biography. I would like to substitute another photograph he took recently that looks more professional. HOW do I do that please? I am not very adept at Wikipedia methods so the clearer the directions the better. Thank you very much. Barbara Bloemink Barbara Bloemink (talk) 14:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Barbarabloemink The easiest way to add an image of you is for you to take a selfie with your phone and upload it yourself. If your husband takes the photo, he must be the one to upload it under his account. See WP:UPIMAGE for more information about this process.

Note that in most cases you shouldn't be directly editing the article about you, but you may make formal edit requests on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 14:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Also answered at Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2023_November_5#Help_-_How_do_I_change_the_Photo_in_my_Biography?!!!!!. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Where do I make suggestions about the wikipedia notification system?

Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 15:01, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Probably at the Village Pump. 331dot (talk) 15:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Help

Hi, long time ago i made a wikipedia page for my old account Mkboss yt W.SK (also the name of the page), i dont have access to that account anymore because email that i registered on doesnt even exist anymore. please delete this page, when i search up my name that page comes up and i am embarrassed by it, there is my full name there. at least edit the page so there isnt my name please. i dont know what to do. MkIsOk (talk) 15:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you link to the page at issue? 331dot (talk) 15:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

It seems to be on Slovak sk Wikipedia, so MkIsOk would need to ask there. TSventon (talk) 15:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

is there support or forum or something for slovakia wiki? can you please send link🙏 MkIsOk (talk) 15:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

https://sk.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Redaktor:Mkboss_yt_W.SK&oldid=6475317 MkIsOk (talk) 15:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, you need to ask this on the Slovak Wikipedia- we can only help with issues on the English Wikipedia. I do not know the Slovak language so I can't find the appropriate forum for you. 331dot (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Possibly Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, the Slovak version of this page is sk:Wikipédia:Potrebujem pomoc. You could translate your query via Google translate or similar and post it there. They were helpful when I visited their helpdesk a few days ago. TSventon (talk) 16:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Table markup

Note split column, that's where I'm tripping up!

Hey all, sorry, but if anyone could advise, I'd appreciate it. I think the drawing, un-da Vinci-like as it is, indicates what I want—can anyone help with the markup? Just one line would be fine! Cheers, ——Serial 17:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC) ——Serial 17:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Don't think of column C being split: think of pairs of cells in all the other columns being merged.

A	B	C	D	E	F
A1	B1	C1A	D1	E1	F1
		C1B
A2	B2	C2A	D2	E2	F2
		C2B
A3	B3	C3A	D3	E3	F3
		C3B

Bazza (talk) 19:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely perfect, Bazza 7—sorry I'm such a dullard! I appreciate the work  :) ——Serial 17:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: err, sorry, I just realised I asked for completely the wrong thing. I don't think dullard quite expresses it... I wanted col C to be vertically split (or not merged?), rather than horizontally, as my image shows. Completely bizarre behaviour by my brain. Apologies, but could you help? ——Serial 18:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: This?

A	B	CA		D	E
AA	BB	CC		DD	EE
A1	B1	C1A	C1B	D1	E1
A2	B2	C2A	C2B	D2	E2
A3	B3	C3A	C3B	D3	E3

Bazza (talk) 19:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: Or more like this?

A	B	C		D	E
A1B1		C1		D1	E1
A2	B2	C2A	C2B	D2	E2
A3	B3	C3A	C3B	D3	E3
A4	B4	C4A	C4B	D4	E4

GoingBatty (talk) 20:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: There are some tools at Help:Table#External links that you might find helpful. GoingBatty (talk) 20:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: yes, morelike. But it's not Bazza's fault—I uploaded another copy of the image (which you've just used) after he did all his work. Unfortunately I've now uploaded yet another version (the last 2 cells in row 2 being merged). I am a complete idiot. It took me about six drawings in the end to work out what I actually wanted and now my red pen has nearly run out! ——Serial 20:17, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm still playing catchup with our customer.

@Serial Number 54129: In essence, if a cell needs to span two columns, it needs a colspan="2" added to it. And if a cell needs to span two rows, it needs a rowspan="2" added to it. That applies to "normal" cells as well as header cells. You should be able to get what you need from the examples above! Bazza (talk) 20:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I should have added: do not be disheartened at finding this troublesome: tables in HTML (and therefore Wiki markup) are counterintuitive and many people have difficulty getting merging cells round their head to begin with. Bazza (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I'm not generally a fan of VisualEditor but it's good at merging table cells. Just drag the mouse over them and click "Merge". Remember that "splitting" a cell is not a thing. Make enough cells from the beginning and then merge where wanted. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:24, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• I think, this is what I wanted... and how proud am I  :)

A	B	C		D	E
A1B1		C1		D1
A2	B2	C2A	C2B	D2	E2
A3	B3	C3A	C3B	D3	E3
A4	B4	C4A	C4B	D4	E4

...and I've managed to tie up the desk space and time of the entire technical help desk night shift! I am really so sorry, guys. But you've been great! I got there in the end. As Holmes said, "What a man you are for climbing a stile Watson, once your leg has been placed firmly on the other side". That's me, and that was my leg. Thanks, everyone! (Good advice PrimeHunter: next time I'll just lay out loads of squares and then remove what I don't need?). ——Serial 20:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Is the draft history removed when an article is finally moved to public space?

I'm creating an article as a draft and saving (publishing) as I go, so the history is pretty meaningless. Is it lost when the article finally goes public, and if not automatically, can it be? Ceperman (talk) 19:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Generally, article history is not tampered with except in serious circumstances, and it is not erased by a move from draftspace to articlespace—it may seem meaningless to you, but you could be surprised how others may find it helpful in the future! :) Remsense留 19:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ceperman: Here is one possibility: Other sites often make undated copies of Wikipedia articles without crediting the source as required by our license. Later there may be doubt who copied who and the Wikipedia article risks being deleted as a suspected copyright violation. An early page history showing gradual development is great evidence that Wikipedia came first. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Duplicate Article?

Are these two duplicate articles?

• Mobile virtual network operator
• Virtual network operator

Thanks! 2601:45:403:ABC0:3B8F:7B3B:6606:D8B8 (talk) 20:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Looks like it. Great catch! ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

"Forum" or "forum"?

I don't understand why on the Forum Romanum page the term "Forum" (I'm not referring to "Roman Forum" and "Forum Romanum" but only to the term "Forum") is written with a capital initial, whereas on the Comitium page it's written with a lowercase initial. I don't ask on the Comitium page, as per your advice, because no one answers me. JackkBrown (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

It's less than 20 hours since you posed the question at Talk:Comitium#Upper or lowercase?. For some editors it can easily be a couple of days between sessions, so it is a bit unreasonable to complain that "no one answers me" after such a short time. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: "the Forum" is a shorter name for the Roman Forum or Forum Romanum, a specific forum with "Forum" in the name. "the forum" indicates some forum which could have had any name. In many sentences in Forum Romanum, both forms could have been chosen without either being wrong but maybe it would be better to be more systematic and always say "the Forum" in that article. Other articles don't mention Forum Romanum dozens of times and it's more natural to use the full name instead of a shortened name, while they can still say "the forum" when they mean the type of place and not the name of a specific forum. I hope that makes sense. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:04, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: great, I will save this message. What would you have used on the Comitium page? I have always used lowercase. You are free to edit the page if you see fit, I take no offence, in fact I am happy if capital letter is more correct on this page. JackkBrown (talk) 22:10, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: I wouldn't use "the Forum" there, and it doesn't. A mix of "Forum Romanum" and "the forum" is OK to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: it was me who wrote "forum" with a lowercase initial on the Comitium page, whereas before on the Consortium page "forum" was written with both upper and lowercase initials. However, if that's OK with you, fine, no need to change it. JackkBrown (talk) 22:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

What does this mean?

When looking at a pages views this message appears: Error querying Pageviews API - Not Found

The page is The Troubles in Ulster (1920-1923) Thanks Palisades1 (talk) 22:26, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Palisades1: It means the page does not exist, in this case at least. Tollens (talk) 22:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

the correct page is The Troubles in Ulster (1920-1922)

Palisades1 (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

That page was moved to its current title today – because that tool doesn't use live data it doesn't know the page exists yet. The old title does have data, see [2]. Tollens (talk) 22:52, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Palisades1 (talk) 22:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Note that the page in question is The Troubles in Ulster (1920-1922), not 1923, which has never existed. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:56, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: Yes, The Troubles in Ulster (1920–1922) was moved there today. Tollens (talk) 23:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

November 28

Ronnie Hawkins

The article on Ronnie Hawkins claims that Roy Buchanan was the guitarist on Hawkins' version of "Who Do you Love". I believe that to be incorrect and that Robbie Robertson is the actual guitarist. 2600:6C44:5500:A7:C4:957A:6CDB:5205 (talk) 01:13, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Please address your concerns to the article talk page(Talk:Ronnie Hawkins, I think), but you will need more than your belief. You will need a reliable source to support your claim. 331dot (talk) 01:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia - sympathizer/opposition

eature summary (what you would like to be able to do and where):

Hello everyone, I would like to propose an idea for wikipedia that in my judgement should be there a long time ago, to promote fair and responsible information.

On the biografy/info should have 2 sections, one from people who are against the subject/ideas and other from people that are in favor of it. It not necessarily need to have 2 sections, but allow contest quotes. It could be even extended, for the whole subject page depending on the subject's controversy.

Use case(s) (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not describe only a solution):

Example: A famous celebrity in his/her page would have 2 sides one narrative by their supporters and the other by their opositors if it has. People could select one part of the biography for example and put that under contest and explaining the other point of view. Sometimes even the person could write a personal note upon a specific theme.

Benefits (why should this be implemented?):

This is importante because, the subject written from only one point of view will be always biased. Allowing both sides to express their thoughts will eliminate the bias from the page. And we always should persuit the truth. This is a way to promote debate and allowing people to have a free and personal judgment upon a theme. 2804:14D:5C83:9BBC:0:0:0:D460 (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are based on what is published in reliable sources and are not the place for support/opposition of a topic. RudolfRed (talk) 01:37, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Are abbreviations such as "i.e." and "etc." endorsed in Wikipedia articles.

To Wikipedia Arbiters,
I have been editing Wikipedia articles for close to 14 years. For brevity, I have been using two abbreviations quite frequently, "i.e." (in other words) and "etc." (for example). I know Wikipedia tends to discourage the use of abbreviations, even though I cannot find the exact editor's Wikipedia page which mentions this at the moment. Are these two particular abbreviations ("i.e." and "etc.") acceptable, considering their wide usage? Is there a editor's Wikipedia article which discusses acceptable abbreviations?
SMargan (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

SMargan, I think you want Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations and "i.e." and "etc." are fine. TSventon (talk) 03:13, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@TSventon - Thanks you so much for the clarification! That issue has been a constant matter of concern. A follow-on question from that is this. If an article uses the abbreviation of "etc." at the top, and "for instance", in another part of the article (where you would use "etc."), would you go through the article page and change each instance for continuity, and if so, which would you use in preference, "etc." or "for instance".SMargan (talk) 06:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, SMargan. If that inconsistency bothers you, you are welcome to edit it to make it consistent. But I don't think there is any policy that requires that sort of consistency. ColinFine (talk) 10:26, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@SMargan: I'm not aware of a requirement to use the same standard English language constructions throughout an article. I'd use a mixture of both, plus "for example", "such as", and any other similar synonyms to make the article interesting to read. I also try not to use abbreviations in open prose, restricting them to parenthesised phrases, infoboxes, tables and other places where brevity might be wanted. Context, as is often the case, is everything. Bazza (talk) 10:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine, Bazza & TSventon: Thanks for your advice guys! It is good to get some bearings whilst editing these Wikipedia pages, via a clarification on some arbiter's positions on the Wikipedia edit policy. You have put my mind to rest. Thanks! SMargan (talk) 11:44, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Do we have a photo-hacker-magicians kiosk?

Hello! Not sure where to ask but maybe someone here knows where to go.

I'd like to get a high-res version of this image off the Mississippi Department of History website for use on Forks of the Road slave market and individual slave trader bios but it seems impossible.

https://da.mdah.ms.gov/series/maps/detail/572788

Do we have people who might have suggestions on how to pull it?

Thank you kindly. jengod (talk) 05:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Click the full screen button, zoom in all the way, screenshot each chunk, stitch them together. The image is roughly 5000x6500px; that's only about 21 subimages even if you've only got a 1080p screen. Hardly impossible. —Cryptic 06:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I do everything on my phone so it gets wonky *BUT* I just found it as much higher res in a PDF so extracted it from there. TY so much for the guidance tho! I'll try that next time. Best, jengod (talk) 06:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

android app

does anyone use this for editing? It seems focused on reading and caching. 3MRB1 (talk) 05:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.wikipedia/

3MRB1 (talk) 05:55, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

I cannot create my user page while logged in with android app. What is this ? 3MRB1 (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Mobile apps for Wikipedia are quite limited in some ways (though they have some features that aren't there in the browser version), and most people do not use them for serious editing. But some editors edit extensively on their phones, using a browser. See Editing on mobile devices ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Watchlist question

Is there a way to hide "MassMessage delivery" edits and/or edits from User:MediaWiki message delivery on your watchlist? Thanks - wolf 05:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: Wikipedia:User scripts/List#Watchlist and recent changes shows User:Nardog/RCMuter. I haven't tried it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll check it out and report back. - wolf 15:27, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

How to view recent changes from mainpage?

Vector 2022 skin

I can't view recent changes from the mainpage. CometVolcano (talk) 12:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@CometVolcano: You may have it on a hamburger button ☰ at the top left. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

No, it is not there. --CometVolcano (talk) 13:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Do you have a "main menu" taskbar at the left of the screen? 331dot (talk) 13:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, there is "main menu" taskbar, but no "recent changes" section in that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CometVolcano (talk • contribs) 13:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

CometVolcano the RecentChanges button should show as in the image I put above. Is this not what you see? Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 13:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

No, I can only see a "main menu" taskbar at the left upper corner upon clicking which there are main page, contents, current events, random articles, but no recent changes. CometVolcano (talk) 14:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Could you upload an image as Sungodtemple did so we can see what you are seeing? 331dot (talk) 14:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

CometVolcano It is under the 'Contribute' tab not directly under Main menu. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 14:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I got it, thank you Sungodtemple. --CometVolcano (talk) 14:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Article's subject is being sued

I have a doubt, it starts with Controversies involving Javier Milei#Coinx promotion, but it happens elsewhere from time to time. Someone has sued some famous person with a wikipedia article, and of course this is mentioned by the press (it would be a great scoop and clickbait, how not to publish it?). Problem is, anyone can sue for basically anything (in the linked case, for doing publicity for a business that later turned to be a scam, even if he had no other link to it besides the advertising), and most such weak cases are silently closed and archived by the judiciary some time later, without the press noticing so. Sometimes there are complex cases that take years before reaching a verdict, but sometimes it's just a weak case that anyone with a minimal knowledge of law would say it has no future of ever getting anywhere but to the archive. So, is there a threshold a judicial case should reach before being worth of mention in an article, or anything that can be referenced goes?

Just to clarify: I'm talking about public figures and how to deal in the articles with press reports of them being sued. I'm not suing anyone nor getting sued myself, nor I'm asking for any kind of actual legal advise. Cambalachero (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

On general Wikipedia principles, if it's reported in Reliable sources, it can be mentioned, but should not be given more prominence relative to the rest of the article than its significance (or lack of it) in the context of the subject overall. How much that is, is I suppose down to editorial judgement/consensus, unless someone known of a more specific policy? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.15} 51.194.245.32 (talk) 18:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

The relevant policy point would be WP:BALASP: significance is determined by weighing the sources talking about one aspect against the body of all sources on the subject; that is, if only a few out of a great many articles about this person discuss a certain lawsuit, that lawsuit should be assigned low significance, but if it is referred to by a great many sources when talking about them, it is more significant. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 21:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Well, but then on the other hand WP:BLP, also a core rule, wants us to be cautions; at WP:BLPCRIME it says

A living person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until convicted by a court of law. Accusations, investigations and arrests do not amount to a conviction.

It doesn't say (there) not to publish accusations/arrests/indictments, but I mean why else would it say what it does. And it says crimes not torts, probably because there's a limit to how much we can spell out, and it doesn't have language specifically exempting torts, which if (for some unfathomable reason) the writers had wanted to, you'd think it would say so.

But then on the other other hand, it says not to publish accusations/arrests/indictments if the person is not a public figure, which kind implies that for a public figure it's OK. It doesn't say that directly though. This could be an oversite, or deliberate, but again if they had meant to exclude public figures from the protection they could have said so straight out. (I kind of doubt they really meant that, I would guess that they meant particularly regarding private persons; it depends on how much you want to interpret the text of our rules as a strict textualist, which hopefully not very much.)

My reading is "don't do it", but then on the other hand Javier Milei is very much a public figure and wants to be. He's not going to sue us, and we can't hurt his feelings, but can we hurt his reputation? I do think we can. Other editors might not. For people like Barack Obama or Donald Trump etc, we can't really hurt their reputation much, but this guy... He's not been well know in the Anglosphere, hella people are going to want to learn about him, and his article is the #1 result in googling his name (after the stuff Google puts up now), so we are a big factor in defining his public face to the Anglosphere. We want to err on the side of caution with living people, and it's not like we don't pile on him enough in that article for the reader to get a sufficiently comprehensive idea on what his deal is, on an encyclopedic level.

TL;DR: Leave it out. Herostratus (talk) 23:34, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

What is WikiChecker?

why are some users blocked from access? Palisades1 (talk) 18:56, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

It seems to be a website giving statistics on users and pages. It's not one I've often seen used, there are other websites (like XTools) that provide similar data in a slightly more accessible manner. I don't know why some people are blocked from access - I'm not, although I don't recall using it before today. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Palisades1 (talk) 19:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

references group="N"

Where is references group="N"? Mcljlm (talk) 21:17, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mcljlm: Which article? An editor may name a new reference group anything. Some editor named this one "N" in some article. -Arch dude (talk) 21:36, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

User:Mcljlm the typical use case is an old-school alternative to {{efn}}. You might find them called under Notes with syntax like {{reflist|group=N}}, but they could be grouped like that for another reason, and called in a References section. Folly Mox (talk) 00:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Arch dudeIt's mentioned here. I wanted to wikilink Whitaker's Almanack and Bloomsbury Publishing in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_post-nominal_letters_(United_Kingdom)#References #7.Mcljlm (talk) 02:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@Mcljlm: OK, I see. The ref (ref 7) is embedded in a "Note" (note 12). That note is in the wikitext as a ref with group="N". Your easiest approach is use the source editor on the whole article (hit the "edit" button at the top instead of editing a section). Search for "Whitaker" using the ctrl+F key in your browser, and when you find it, turn it into a wikilink. -Arch dude (talk) 04:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Oops, I just did this. Thank you for providing the explanation. Folly Mox (talk) 04:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

References

Province of Sondrio

Hi, why is the infobox on this page before the text? JackkBrown (talk) 23:24, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, because that is where infoboxes are almost always placed. Cullen328 (talk) 23:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cullen328: in the sense that in visual mode there is first the image and then the explanation of what this province is (you understood in non-visual mode). JackkBrown (talk) 23:31, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, the underlying wikicode can be seen in the source editor. I see nothing at all out of the ordinary with the infobox coding, or how the infobox is displayed on the rendered article. Am I missing something? Cullen328 (talk) 23:45, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Cullen328: see the difference between the Province of Ravenna and Province of Sondrio pages. JackkBrown (talk) 23:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: There is no difference in desktop. Most editors use the desktop site where the infobox behaves normally. I assume you refer to the mobile version viewed in a narrow window like a phone. Please always say you use the mobile version if you report layout issues. Infobox code nearly always appears before the first paragraph in the wikitext and therefore also in the generated html for the desktop site. Infoboxes have float:right which place them at the top right and allows text to "float" to the left if there is room. That works well in most desktop screens. Mobile viewers often don't have room to the left of an infobox so the designers of the mobile version chose to move the lead paragraph up above the infobox in the html. See mw:Reading/Web/Projects/Lead Paragraph Move. Some things can prevent this move. In Province of Sondrio it appears to be the use of {{coord}} before the infobox. Maybe the mobile code incorrectly thinks that the template output is the lead paragraph and there is no need to move another paragraph. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: Building on the answer above, Province of Ravenna has {{coord}} at the end of the article, while Province of Sondrio has {{coord}} at the top. The documentation at Template:Coord states "Per WP:ORDER, the template is placed at the bottom of the article..." so I fixed the Province of Sondrio article, which I hope fixed your issue. GoingBatty (talk) 05:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

November 29

Can I get a receipt for my donation?

Can I get a receipt for my donation? DrKarl-Oz (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, DrKarl-Oz. The volunteer editors here at the English Wikipedia have nothing to do with financial donations. You will have to contact the Wikimedia Foundation. This link will give you information. Donating to the Wikimedia Foundation Cullen328 (talk) 02:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

We have nothing to do with the donation process, please email the Foundation at donate at Wikimedia dot org. 331dot (talk) 02:14, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Conflicting sources

I'm a new editor so if I'm asking this in the wrong place, please redirect me and accept my thanks.

I'm editing an article about the founder and first director of Musée de la civilisation in Quebec, Roland Arpin. Page 63 of this source says that what in 1980 time was called Musée du Quebec had a mandate to display ethnographic collections, but it was falling short so a new museum was needed. I decided to verify that.

Musée du Quebec is now called Musée national des beaux-arts du Québec. That page's primary source for the history of the museum is here. This makes no mention at all of ethnographic collections. What should I do? Would contacting the author of the book be original research? If it's allowed in this case and she responds to me, how do I cite that in the article? Oona Wikiwalker (talk) 02:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Oona Wikiwalker. Here is my view: The fact that one reliable source makes a plausible claim and another reliable source does not comment on the matter does not mean that the sources are in conflict. If the first source is truly reliable, then it can be cited without a second corroborating source. Anything you learned through direct communication with the author would be original research. Cullen328 (talk) 02:24, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@Oona Wikiwalker: By "original research", Cullen328 means WP:OR. Bazza (talk) 09:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

deletion stats

how could one obtain the number of article deletions per day over a year, please? it doesn't need to be a graphical plot, a table or list would be fine. thanks! PS: wmcharts seems to be out of date: https://wmcharts.toolforge.org/wmchart0004.php fgnievinski (talk) 05:13, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Are third party sites selling Wikipedia branded merchandise legit?

I was promoted tonight to make my annual donation and remembered Wikipedia also has a store with Merch for sale. Years ago there was a tote bag available with the wiki globe logo on it, but has since been discontinued or sold out. But when googling that phrase it seems there's lots of other sites selling a similar wikipedia branded tote bag. Are these "officially" licensed in any way or no? I ONLY want to support wikipedia and if that means never getting this tote bag I'm okay with that, I just don't know where to find out for sure.

Presumably the answer is no, but perhaps it's just been outsourced? Kreezzalee (talk) 05:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@Kreezzalee: I don't see any tote bags on the official Wikipedia store. I do see tote bags on Redbubble (and lots of other merchandise with other logos) that has no indication of proper licensing from the trademark owners. GoingBatty (talk) 06:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Request for Removal of Unregistered User Edit - [Article title: بلال پاشا]

Dear Wikipedia staff, Dear Wikipedia Editors,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to bring your attention to a recent edit made by an unregistered user on the [بلال پاشا] page. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, I am unable to log in and address this matter directly.

I understand the importance of maintaining accurate and reliable information on Wikipedia, and I am concerned about the inclusion of my recent edit, which is associated with my IP address. I kindly request the removal of this edit from the article.

I acknowledge Wikipedia's commitment to transparency and community-driven content, and I want to assure you that this request is made in the spirit of upholding the platform's standards. I believe that removing this edit will contribute to the overall accuracy and quality of the mentioned page.

I am more than willing to provide additional context or clarification regarding my request if needed. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Best regards

[Your Wikipedia username, if applicable] [Additional contact information, if desired] 154.80.84.43 (talk) 07:35, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: بلال پاشا at the Urdu Wikipedia

Reverts and extended-confirmed protection

Several pages have been reverted to bad versions and then protected, in some cases extended-confirmed protected. For starters, see the recent edit histories of Opeyemi Sowore and Tower of London, where reverts have restored display errors. In Mercy Aigbe, a revert removed words which clearly belonged there. It's slightly more complicated with Mark Geragos, Charles Ingram, and Porter and Jick, but if you look at the sources, you'll see that the other versions were clear improvements (and if you know anything about U.S. politics, you'll know that a pardon is quite unlikely to have been requested on January 20, 2001, which is what the Mark Geragos article currently states.) If you follow certain editors' recent histories, you can find even more pages where similar things have happened. I wish people would just focus on content.

(Yes, I know this probably isn't the right place for this, but I don't see where else to go, all things considered.) 204.102.40.250 (talk) 08:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Well I have no ability to change the protection situation but I fixed the clear broken formatting in the first two ones. I hope. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:10, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

The right place to discuss such things, at least initially, is the talk pages of the articles.

I've had a look at the edit histories of several of tha pages you list, and observed that IP editors are less likely to be taken seriously than registered editors. That is "wrong" and against Wikipedia policy. Nevertheless, I would advise any serious IP editor to register an account. Maproom (talk) 09:21, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Weird interlanguage link

Can anyone figure out why this article shows as having an interlanguage link to a nonexistent Norwegian nynorsk article? It doesn't appear to be on the wikidata entry. This is unrelated to me adding the local interlanguage links to the Swedish and Afrikaans wikis (to override wikidata because other language wikis have articles on the perpetrator and not the event), it was there before. I thought adding those might fix it, but it did not. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: there was an incorrect interwikilink in Template:Massacre-stub (for several months) which got included in the article. I removed it. MKFI (talk) 09:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

@MKFI Ohhhhh, that makes sense, yeah it didn't seem like an article title. Thank you very much. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:44, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

photos

Why can't I upload photos to my Wikipedia page it gives me this warning " We could not determine whether this file is suitable for Wikimedia Commons. Please only upload photos that you took yourself with your camera, or see what else is acceptable. See the guide to make sure the file is acceptable and learn how to upload it on Wikimedia Commons." The picture is not copyrighted and not graphic. Maggie on the block (talk) 09:50, 29 November 2023 (UTC)